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KJohnsson
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How long did you search around for a new car before you decided on the Equinox and signed an agreement of sale? I think about 4 to 6 months before I finish paying off the nox I will start looking for what I may want to get next (even if it is another Equinox). Or are you someone who goes in, testdrives and buys all in the same day with very little or no research? icon_nervous.gif



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PostNov 22, 2004 10:15 am 
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DetroitLions
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Its sad but true, I dont buy a toaster without researching online price and or reviews such as at epinions.com. I am a bit of a "car buff" so I knew the Nox was coming. I did spend a few months considering the vehicle before I bought so I knew I would be making the right decision and I did. icon_smile.gif

My sister, on the other hand is the opposite. A few weeks ago she bought a used car from a car lot. She overpaid by $3000.00. Without researching she over paid and the dealer knew they had an *ahem* "uniformed consumer."
Im not saying that all car salespeople are all out there to overcharge or misrepresent but an informed consumer will be in a better position to negotiate.

PostNov 22, 2004 11:06 am 
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Usually I am almost as obsessive as DetroitLions ( icon_wink.gif lol) because we can't afford to waste money on stuff. But we ordered our Equinox on March 2, just a couple of weeks after we knew of their existance. Which was fine money-wise, since we can't negotiate the special military price we get anyway. We ordered our Nox never having seen one in person and of course we never drove one, and we couldn't be happier with it! icon_chevysmile.gif icon_trampoline.gif icon_chevysmile.gif

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PostNov 22, 2004 12:45 pm 
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About 3 months. I knew my lease was over in Aug. so I started to look for different 4x4 or AWD cars. I drove a few different models and decided on the NOX. icon_biggrin.gif

PostNov 22, 2004 2:48 pm 
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I spent about 5 months doing research on the Nox and several other cars. Had originally saw the Nox at a car show in April and loved it. However, was somewhat concerned with a first year car. After doing lots of research decided to go ahead with it and could not be happier. Only issue I have had so far is that the power outlet in the front console does not work icon_mad.gif
Figure I will get it taken care of the next time I am close by the dealer.

PostNov 22, 2004 5:25 pm 
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OhMyNox
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Joined: 13 Nov 2004
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Location: Franklin, WI Equinox: 2005 FWD LT 1SE black / xm / mp3 / towing / side-curtain air bags

I've been looking for my next car for over 3 years. I had my last car for about 6 1/2 years. All the new cars were pretty much like what I already had and I couldn't get that excited about them. Then I saw the Nox!! I spent much less than I thought I was going to have to on a new car, and it's loaded with options. Plus, I love the looks. I did research the Nox on the net before I went to test drive. This helped to convince me:



icon_neutral.gif Road Testing...
Chevrolet Equinox Takes On
Three Worthy SUV Competitors


___ M o t o r T r e n d Magazine :: Equinox Comparison
icon_arrow.gif Equinox Road Test: Looking for a sport/utility small enough to thread through parking lots without nasty scraping sounds, yet big enough to haul everybody off for a camping trip without pressing them into sardines? And enough pluck to pick through 8 a.m. traffic, too? Who do you think you are? Goldilocks? Actually, there's a corner of the sprawling population of SUVs that might be, well, just right after all. It includes the facelifted 2005 Ford Escape XLT Sport 4WD with a V-6, a steady player that's just what its exterior design purports it to be--a steel and glass incarnation of a sprightly mountain goat; the aging but value-intense Hyundai Santa Fe 4WD GLS, rejuvenated by a new 3.5-liter V-6; and Saturn's VUE AWD Red Line, itself renewed via a new-for-2004 trim and suspension package, plus a serious-business 250-horsepower, 3.5-liter Honda-built V-6.

    And if you're not confused enough already, we have the all-new (but VUE-based) Chevy Equinox AWD LT, powered by a 3.4-liter V-6 built in China. China? A Ford, a Korean, a Japanese engine in a brand named after a giant planet, and a Bow-Tie American employing an engine made in the land of The Great Wall. This is starting to sound like a Henny Youngman "four-cars-walked-into-a-bar" joke. To find out which would deliver the punchline and which the knockout punch, research demanded we probe their on-road performance, soft-road escapades, and, yes, their light-camping suitability.


icon_arrow.gif Fourth Place
2005 Ford Escape XLT Sport 4WD


Parked before Red Rocks's eroding cliffs, the flinty Ford Escape could be a mechanical incarnation of wiry old Henry Ford himself, quietly pondering barren vistas, a twig slowly twisting in the corner of his mouth.

So what has lowered it into the depths of fourth place? An accumulation of niggling nickel-and-dime demerits rather than any calamitous catastrophe. Little stuff, like the chintzy-looking chrome-bezeled speedo and tach cluster, the cog-box's minimalist four instead of five ratios, and the engine's rough commotion accelerating under full-throttle.


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2004 Saturn VUE AWD Red Line


It's easy to imagine the Saturn VUE Red Line as sort of a make-the-best-of-it vehicle a young sport-compact car-culture guy might turn to if a lost weekend in Vegas ended with an inexplicable bride and little-one-to-be. What to do? Buy the transformer-like Red Line.

While the others in this test--to varying degrees--steer, brake, and accelerate competently on the road, the Saturn elbows you to strap on Mr. Toad's goggles. When a corner approaches, you don't just estimate the steering angle you'll need and approximately when to apply it; you're invited to calculate an exact mental trajectory, dot by dot, from entry to apex to exit. The brakes, much like the Equinox's, have a good solid feel when you start to tap into them.

The VUE shares the Equinox's feather-effort, electrically assisted steering, which is so over- assisted that you wonder why it doesn't go all the way and steer itself. Yet it's interesting to note how the Saturn's stiffer suspension presents this steering in a much better light. For instance, in the middle of a long bend, the two vehicles probably have very similar steering angles and efforts. But the VUE's tightly tied-down chassis means you can inject much subtler steering motions entering and exiting it. There is a ride penalty here, but that's what often comes with such a marked increase in handling prowess.

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2003 Hyundai Santa Fe 4WD GLS


After an hour or two of driving, on-road and off, we began to notice a series of quiet, two-at-a-time discussions among our testers when we'd stop to switch keys. "You know, this Hyundai is, uh, pretty good--what do you think?" Pavement or not, over hills, through dales, the Santa Fe made us blanch again and again. "Gee, this thing isn't bad."

But bend the Santa Fe into a lane change, and the steering reports an abrupt ramp-up in effort as you rotate it off-center. A subtle quirk. Less subtle is the tire's cornering noise (or howl, depending on speed), which can be dialed up and down as if the steering wheel were a giant volume knob. In hard cornering, this rises to a genuine wail--perhaps in despair of the tires' modest grip, evident in the Santa Fe's low skidpad (0.69 g) and slalom (57.8 mph) numbers. In normal driving, though, this isn't an issue.

However, an ever-present driving deficit is the brake feel. It's not apparent in the Santa Fe's emergency-stopping distance (which is right in there with the Escape and Equinox at 136 feet), but the softness of the pedal can lose you valuable fractions of a second during any brake application. We also noticed a slight pulsing in the pedal after a few downhill brake applications (sometimes indicative of warping). But it seemed to disappear after they'd cooled.


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2005 Chevrolet Equinox AWD LT


This is a tricky choice to explain. Like the beauty-contest winner whose smile reveals a particle of food in her teeth, the Equinox is blessed with prodigious charm and grace--but there's an aspect of it that causes you to roll your eyes. The bit of spinach stuck between the Equinox's front teeth is its electrically assisted steering. It's hard to recall a steering system with less feedback, a slower ratio, or more over-assisted effort. It's so off-putting that it threatens to detract from any of the Equinox's other driving qualities, a shame considering these include a competent 9.1-second 0-to-60-mph time, emergency-stopping distances that better those of the Escape or Santa Fe, and a nicely sensitive brake pedal. But the Equinox's strongest appeal really isn't about performance at all; it's the repeated bull's-eyes it tallies in design and styling.

And that starts with its interior space packaging. Uniquely in this comparo, the Equinox features a nifty sliding rear seat that can be redeployed fore and aft by eight full inches--a boon to interior-space versatility. While the mechanism itself can be a struggle to operate (puzzling, given that plenty of moms likely will be drawn to the Equinox), the option to either provide generous legroom to rear adu lt or reduce it for children (adding cargo space) is simply smart. Smart, too, is the forward-folding front-passenger seat (shared with the VUE) that allows the Equinox to swallow, for instance, lengths of PVC piping that would otherwise have to be lashed to the roof rack.

The Equinox is as smart-looking as it is smart-functioning. Its exterior design is an impeccable piece of functional sculpture, from its clean new-face Chevrolet nose to its well-proportioned flanks to its crisp taillights. Handsome. Compared with the others, it has a uniquely alert, slightly forward-leaning posture.



Inside, it's a knockout, too. Where the Escape's interior is a study in truckish utility, the Santa Fe's in exuberant overdesign, and the Saturn's in Goth alternative angularity, the Equinox's is clean, crisp, and elegant. It shares a tasteful design vocabulary with high-end consumer electronic products; Apple's beautiful flat-panel monitors come to mind.

For instance, the simple thin molding surrounding the speedometer and tach (a detail you'll look at often) is thoughtfully shaped; black, soft-touch rotary knobs punctuate the silver-treatment center stack. Surrounding the shifter is a convenient nonslip tray, an ideal perch for a cell-phone.
    Actually, this tray resides where the shift position indicator normally is, requiring its relocation to the bottom of the center stack, where it illuminates from left to right as you shift the transmission out of park.

    A demerit for the Equinox--but really one for all our competitors--is the downsized dimensions of the driver and front-passenger seats. Actually, there's an interesting visual sleight-of-hand happening here: When you first glance at the seats, which are in correct proportion with the rest of the interior, they look full-size. But look again: They're actually about 7/8th scale. After settling into the driver's seat, your left leg (which is usually idle) easily spills off the bottom cushion's side (exacerbated in the Equinox by its particularly soft foam). Another oddity is the massiveness of the Equinox's horse-blinder A-pillars, wider even than the Saturn's.

Punching in at a base price of $24,900 (including a multiplicity of common standard features) and with such options as OnStar ($820), leather seats ($545), and XM Satellite Radio ($335), the Equinox represents a major upshift for Chevrolet's entry-SUV model--and an impressive feat of smart packaging and tasteful design at a sensible price. Food particle and all.



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PostNov 22, 2004 6:49 pm 
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jdw
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I started doing research a year ago Dec when I first heard about the NOX. Spent all winter finding out what I could on it and researched other vehicles. Finally in May when the dealers started getting them in I purchased. icon_smile.gif

PostNov 22, 2004 7:20 pm 
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crzyincali
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We didn't look around at all. I checked out the Nox online after finding it on the chevy website. I compared it to the Envoy via vehix, then we went to the chevy dealership about 2 hours later and test drove the nox. They had to get the exact Nox we wanted from another dealership and we picked up our car 2 days later. Call me crazy icon_twisted.gif but I couldn't be happier with my spur of the moment choice.

PostNov 22, 2004 8:16 pm 
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DetroitLions
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quote:
Originally posted by crzyincali:
We didn't look around at all. I checked out the Nox online after finding it on the chevy website. I compared it to the Envoy via vehix, then we went to the chevy dealership about 2 hours later and test drove the nox. They had to get the exact Nox we wanted from another dealership and we picked up our car 2 days later. Call me crazy icon_twisted.gif but I couldn't be happier with my spur of the moment choice.


CRAZY! icon_lol.gif sorry couldnt resist

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Location: Los Angeles,CA Age:32 (F) Silver Nox LT w/ Leather 10" DVD Player / 22" Rims

I did RESEARCH on the Nox about a month or so before I ordered it and while I was waiting for my Nox to come in I still tried to find out as much infromation as I could find before I got "the call" from the dealership and finalized my purchase. icon_wink.gif

PostNov 22, 2004 9:29 pm 
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Zman





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Location: Corona, CA Age:28 (M) 6/18/77

NoxNox: does your outlet not work all the time or just when the car is off. I was reading a GM bulletin that talked about the coolent problem and one of the things it mentioned was that the power outlet will only work with the car on or in the ACC position. I think that is stupid. icon_sad.gif

PostNov 22, 2004 10:08 pm 
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Oh yea sorry.... I saw the Nox on the web at the first of the year. I kept going back to look at it and read what new info there was on it. I see the general manager of a dealer several times a month at a business meeting and one day I asked when the Equinox's would be in. He had a few on order and expected them to come in shortly. Within a few days he called me back to tell me that one had arrived. I think that was around March? I could be wrong. I took a look and liked it. It was an LS and I was not ready to buy at that time. A few months later I finally jumped into it and drove home my dark silver LT. icon_exclaim.gif

PostNov 22, 2004 10:12 pm 
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STomei
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Great article. Thanks for posting it. The Equinox wins another one.

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PostNov 24, 2004 1:49 am 
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I started doing research the year the nox was mentioned as coming out. Finally in May 2004 when the dealers started getting them in I purchased.



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PostNov 24, 2004 1:54 am 
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I saw the Nox on carsdirect.com back in January of 04, then saw it at the Pittsburgh Auto Show and I liked it (didn't love it). However, when my wife and I started seriously looking for a vehicle in June it was pretty easy to narrow the field down to the Nox & CRV. Test drove both and my BH preferred the Nox (I did too). We bought on July 22nd and couldn't be happier (barring a few problems)

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